1952-The Quebec Copper mine site was 3 miles from the town of Eastman in the Eastern Townships. Company houses were built in 1954 and we moved there along with 6 or 7 other families. In 1952/1953, while we waited for a house to be built, we lived in Magog, 10 miles away and went to school there. It seemed to me that Magog was bi-lingual. I couldn’t speak one word of French. Dad found a suitable 2nd floor apartment on St. Luc street, above a candy store and just down the street from the textile mill. As luck would have it, that neighbourhood was 100% French speaking. I was 10 years old and before long had met our 3rd floor neighbours, twin girls, Marie Anne & Marie Marthe who insisted that I join in games with other kids, so they drew pictogram’s in the sandy yard and we communicated just fine. I went to La Colonie (the beach/park) on Saturdays with them and to movies at the church. We marched in a parade in dresses made of crepe paper, watched a “snowy” TV in a store window for the first time, and sometimes I joined their family in the evenings listening to the rosary recited at 7pm on the radio. I was feeling at ease with the French culture and realized that my own family name was French. I attended Grade five at a brand new school-The Princess Elizabeth school and Her Majesty became Queen Elizabeth in 1953, a very exciting event. In 1954 we moved to a new duplex at the mine site and I was distressed to learn that I would be going to yet another school, Waterloo High School. I was accustomed to moving and leaving friends behind and adjusted quickly and loved the following three years as a preteen and finally a teenager. Like most teens, I was in a world of my own along with my friends, and family life and “mine life” was often, the very last thing on my mind.
However, the mine site, a hundred yards from our front door, was interesting and accessible. Aside from the office, there was the head-frame, a hoist room, pump house, crusher and conveyor belt to the mill. We had an old fashioned wooden phone hooked up and Dad could talk to the miners underground at any time of the day or night.
Since there wasn’t much for kids to do there, the mine built us a tennis court. There were only three kids old enough to use it at the time, but they spared no expense and bought us Slazenger rackets. There wasn’t a soul nearby who knew how to play or to teach.
We were driven to Eastman to catch a school bus but the company car went on to Waterloo every day to drive kids to another school, so we had a choice. Of course we chose the bus. Kids that age don’t want to be unique in any way, except when it suited us!
Times were good. We had a new family car and went away for holidays to Old Orchard Beach, and weekends to Newport and Burlington to shop. Mom bought Ever-Ware and an Osterizer. We had a TV and watched Triple Western Theater, Gillette Cavalcade of Sports and saw Elvis Presley on The Dorsey show the first time he performed.
By 1957 we were on the move again, back to Ontario. Quebec Copper was closing. If I remember, there was still copper to be mined but it was no longer economically feasible.
I went back to that deserted mine site a few times in the 60’s and 70’s. I could see the foundations of the various buildings but any signs of where houses had stood were obliterated by forest. I was able to locate the tennis court, the reservoir and a metal pylon that would have been a corner of our house.
It made me realize how easily history can be erased.
http:// www.muneastman.ca
http://www.jcamyot.com/eastman mine map.jpg
August 26, 2007 at 1:04 am |
Hello,
I’ve been living in Eastman for 5 years and I just heard today about caves that were dug by the mining company to store toxic waste from the copper cleaning. They where never used and the entrances were filled up for security. But apparently some kids entered anyways and explored them.
Would you know about this? Have you been in them yourself?
August 26, 2007 at 1:17 pm |
Thank you for commenting-
This would not have taken place in my time there. The waste from the separation of copper from the rock was called “tailings” and I remember there being a large lake-like field of tailings near the mine site and kids would know better than to go near there. In later years mines were held responsible for clean ups but what was done with all that, I have no idea. I had heard that lovely homes were built right where the tailings had been, but that is unsubstantiated.
I don’t know of any caves near there but I do remember that there had been another mine near there years earlier. It was called The Huntingdon Mine but I don’t have any other information to offer.
That would make an interesting research.
August 26, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
Thank you very much for your response. I am going there today to explore the area. I will let you know if I find more informations.
August 27, 2007 at 2:09 pm |
Please do write as much as you find out. Other little details may jog my memory, or someone else out there in “internet land” may add to the comments.
August 27, 2007 at 5:58 pm |
Jean Claude,
Please see today’s post re: The “Haunted”House, Eastman-More clues for you to follow.
August 28, 2007 at 1:16 am |
I’ve tried to find the mine.
All I could find is a campground that is supposedly situated right where the mine was on “chemin de la mine de cuivre” road. I was hoping to send you a picture of how it looks today but couldn’t find any reference point and the people operating the campground didn’t know of any.
I came across an old railroad map (1906) of Eastman but it’s so different that it is hard to compare it with today’s configuration. Also the street names, the lake names, ponds, creeks everything has changed witch makes it even harder to locate thing.
I asked a few people, but no one had actually been to the mine except James Sweet, the man that told me he visited the caves in his childhood. Some people say that a man died in the mine. Another told me that gold was found in it!
I still have more people to visit so I will keep you posted.
August 28, 2007 at 1:50 am |
James Sweet! That means there could have been a Sweet road as I mentioned before.
I really suspect that the caves were the Huntingdon Mines, because only trace amounts of gold would be found in a copper mine, but the Huntingdon mine could have been a gold mine. I would like to see a photo of the campground & I’m going to look for some photos of the Quebec Copper mine site also, & will post them. In those days it was very popular to have ariel photos taken of various sites. We had one but it’s long gone now-Can you find out which mining company owned Quebec copper. (Probably a Toronto company, & they may have some records and photos on file.)
PS, I hope there were soil samples taken before a camp ground was built there, if it’s actually on that spot.
September 3, 2007 at 7:58 pm |
Hello littlepatti,
I think I found the site where the mine used to be. It is 4km south of downtown Eastman on a road called “Chemin de la mine” near the north end of what is now called “Lac long pond”. There are people living in houses by the lake. A vast area is being reforested by residents. I suspect it might be the mine. I saw what I think could have been the haunted house hill. Some people told me that the caves were filled up. Too bad for the bats that were living there.
What puzzles me is the “Camping de la mine de cuivre”, it is only .8km from Eastman on a road called “chemin de la mine de cuivre”. That road doesn’t connect to the “chemin de la mine” one. So why name the road and the campground after something so far? From what I found The Quebec Copper exploited the old Huntington site. So was there two mine sites being used by two companies? Or is it just the campground’s name that is not appropriate? Or was the mine site 3 miles long?
Well at least chances of people camping on tailings are smaller…
September 3, 2007 at 9:04 pm |
HI JC,
You are really a good explorer!
I must find a map of that area and try to see what I can remember.-I thought that the mine was about 3 miles (KM?-I need my calculator) from Eastman (a street near a little church, but not the same street as the church.)The road that lead to the mine site continued after the mine site “off ramp” strip of road. I think that main road continued to Bolton Center. The “off ramp” was to the left of the road, the mine site was probably on 3-4 acres and the houses were on a hill just a few feet above the mine site. Above the houses was the top of the hill where the mine had built a man-made lake, which served as a reservoir. The last time I was there the mine site was still barren, because many of the building’s had cement floors, but the area where the houses had been, had grown in and I walked up the hill to the reservoir- The water was all dried up and there was an area about the size of a baseball diamond in the middle, just grassy…the trees were closing in. No sign of water. I still don’t know where the water was being pumped up there from-The mine may have drilled into an underground lake??? I do wonder about that.
I just remembered something: “Copper mine road” “chemin de la mine de cuivre” was not the road to Quebec Copper mine! I don’t know why that was named…can you find out when it was named> I just remember that name when driving to the townships many years ago & I knew that it wasn’t the road to the site-
Okay, now I am curious, and looking for a map on the internet!
September 3, 2007 at 11:04 pm |
Now we have established that the campers are not sitting on a toxic waste site…That’s the good news! The bad news is: maybe some homes were built there!
I can’t find a good map on the internet, so I’ll look around for a road atlas to get a bearing on that area.
You are right, the site is 2.5 miles from the center of the town of Eastman. Hwy 10 ran right through the end of the little street that lead to the gravel road to the mine site. We had to drive past “Auntie Katie’s” house- That was Katie and Ed Young who everyone called “Auntie Katie”. Older folks there would remember them- They are both long gone now. Lovely people!
I don’t remember the two mines sharing a site. I thought that the Huntingdon mine was further down the road and it was not well known at that time either.
Thank you for researching this area- Otherwise the local history gets erased by time.
Does the village of Eastman have a web site?
Sometimes the local Chambre de Commerce can sponsor a web site.
Best regards,
littlepatti
September 7, 2007 at 12:23 am |
Hello littlepatti,
Yes Eastman has a new website that I just finished building for them. You can see it at http://www.muneastman.ca there is not much about history though.
I dont know how to send an image in this post so here is a link to a map of the area I explored the other day http://www.jcamyot.com/eastman_mine_map.jpg
Have a good day
September 16, 2007 at 11:38 pm |
We are planning to drive to Eastman this week or next to orient ourselves- I will write about our trip afterward.
Curiosity killed the cat…
Littlepatti
September 22, 2007 at 8:57 pm |
Hello. I am from Cowansville and while not directly related, I would like to get ahold of jim sweet re; eastman rail lines etc.
My grandfather and uncles were with the CpR many years ago and I have a couple of pictures of the Eastman bridge collapse that were left to me by my mother.
I also have a railroad lock and key that i believe was for the switches,and connected is my grandfathers id tag.
September 22, 2007 at 11:23 pm |
Hi Ken,
Please contact Jean Claude-His address is listed above- He has met Mr. Sweet and is collecting information about Eastman for the website, and I am sure that he would be interested.
littlepatti
September 28, 2007 at 4:14 am |
Hello Ken,
I am sure M. Sweet would be interested in the photos and the lock.
Here is what is written on his buisness card:
ORFORD MOUNTAIN RAILWAY
Historic archives
James Sweet
450-297-2803
Good day to you
August 21, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
Hi Jean Claude ,
I know that i’m maybe to late but the huntingdon cooper mine is located a bit further of the campground ”mine de cuivre”on road 245.You can see it from the road .
August 21, 2009 at 10:56 pm |
Hi Max, Thanks for the info. I’ll forward it to JC. Please tell us what else you know about the mine. It makes sense that old copper mine would be on that road…did the haunted house I described, belong to the owners of the Huntindon mine?
November 27, 2009 at 2:19 am |
Greetings LittlePatti! In doing research for my digital railway map project of Quebec I stumbled across your site and am interested to know if you have a copy of the 1906 map of the railways in Eastman that you could send me. Even a digial snapshot of the map will do if it is not already on your computer. I am also curious to know how your planned trip back to Eastman went that you wrote about here on September 16th 2007. Were you able to satisfy your curiosity? Did the cat die? (teehee)
Hoping you and yours are well,
Paul D.
November 27, 2009 at 2:58 pm |
Hi Paul,
I don’t have any railway maps but please contact the Eastman website, they may put you in touch with people who are rail buffs (Is that the right term?)
I haven’t been back to Eastman as I had “seriously” planned in 2007. Where the heck does the time go to? I also planned to go this past summer and didn’t. The sad part is that I had planned to see old friends in the area. The towns will always be there, but the people…maybe no. I’ll make another effort the summer of 2010. Are you a native of the townships? (I went to WHS in 55/56/57) Many very fond memories. Please write about your railway interest.
November 28, 2009 at 1:18 am
Thank you for your promt reply LittlePatti. I am afraid I am not from anywhere near there, in fact I am from Brampton Ontario. My interests lay in the history of the railway branchlines that once serviced both your home and mine. My website is: http://quebecrailwaymap.webs.com/
If you will visit my website it will explain in depth the goals of my project. One of my greatest joys in life is to travel to the towns and villages where these railways used to travel. I then photograph any remaining architecture from the railway eras. The hardest part of doing this was an utter lack of maps to be able to trace these routes effectively. Just about a year and a half ago I met a young man who was working to create just such a map of the southern Ontario region and now this is all I do. We use the Google earth satellite image programme to trace out as much as we can find and I can safely say there is no more comprehensive or accurate map of its type anywhere, and I am very proud of the things we have accomplished so far.
I branched out on my own to do the same for Quebec and am now eagerly hunting historical maps and descriptions of all the lines in Quebec including streetcar systems and the electric inter-urban services that once graced la belle provence. It has been an unceasing learning experience and it brought me to your facinating historical recount of your youth. I was researching for maps of the Eastman area when I found accounts of the Dillonton and Huntington mines and of course your wonderful site.
My apologies, it was another person here who responded that they had a map from 1906. I should pay more attention to these things but at least I can say I met a nice lady with a great story to tell.
Bless you for sharing, Paul D.
November 28, 2009 at 2:35 am |
Hi again,
I really glad that you have enjoyed reading my blog. You may also enjoy some of the people I have included in my “blog roll” on the main page- such as “Aboard the Nikan” a sailing adventure etc.
Above, ie: Sept 7th- Please do contact JC Amyot, for the 1906 map connection, also reference to Orford Mountain railway, which would be the Eastman line- there’s Mr. Sweet and a phone number. The website addresses are above for Jean Claude and also the Eastman town site.
The nice thing about the internet, is so many interesting people are eager to share whatever knowledge they have. NICE!
Best regards, Pat
PS: I’ll check your site tomorrow.
“Ah, so much to do (all good) so little time.” I still can’t figure out how I managed to work 8 hours a day, commute 3 hours a day and raise a family. Maybe youth has something to do with it…
November 28, 2009 at 3:41 am |
Again, thank you for your kindness. I have come to learn that if you show some genuine interest in a persons story, they will open up to you and you are living proof of this. Thanks to you I have 3 new possible sources of valuable historical data.
F.Y.I., there were several railways servicing the area, all eventually came under the control of the C.P.R. The Black River and Missisquoi Valley Railway (which later became the Orford Mountain railway) was the north/south route, The Waterloo and Magog Railway that connected with the previous line at Dillonton and the C.P.R that currently runs east/west through Eastman. I have a map I am sure you will want to see, it details the locations of the mines and smelter from Eastman to Bolton. Please write me at fireflysea@live.com and I will send it to you immeadiately.
Peace be with you, Paul D.
December 24, 2009 at 1:15 am |
Bonjour Littlepatti / Jean-Claude and all others who took interest in this blog. I was drawned to these communications as I was searching for information on the Quebec Cooper Mining Corporation. I was having a conversation with my father yesterday and I will see him again tomorrow for X-mass. He remember a lot about the mine. By the way, the coper mine road entrance is that street leading to the camping. This continues in the back but it’s all grown now. You can access by the old shaft road the will lead you directly to where there are tailing residues. Also, yes there are entrence to the mine. it is cimented and there is a large round ciment cap on it. By now you can figure that I am one of those kids that was playing in it. Nothing much to see except for baths. The QCMC did terminate operation in 1957 because their Tax exemption became issues. The mine still contains more then 2/3 of it’s content but it is very expensive to exploit as this is considered as a wet mine. Ho ya, the lake is called long lake (lac long) and carried the same name back in the day.
Robert Brault
December 24, 2009 at 1:53 pm |
Hi,
I seem to remember the name “Brault”. If your Dad worked at the mine or was around Eastman at that time, he may remember my father, Elmer.
Could you have lived on the road to the mine? Did we get our dog Teddy from your family?
Many thanks for your information. Every bit helps to paint the picture of mining in those days.
You may find photos of Elmer & Mary in earlier posts “Central Patricia” etc.
Best regards for the new year!
Pat
December 24, 2009 at 9:06 pm |
Littlepatti,
As a matter of fact, my grandfather lived on the road to the mine. Today, It is a street in the middle of the village called rue des Pins. My father and his brother both worked at the mine, Ernest and Clement. My grandfather Thomas owned the town garage. I’ll find some picture for you…! The garage did automotive repairs, welding, body shop, towing and general repairs for the mine. Back in the days, you had to be versatile I guess. On my mother’s side, they were a family from Montreal (Giroux) that moved to Eastman and opened a General store L. P. Giroux Marchand General. Louis Phillip died at a very young age (32) and my grandmother Bertha Giroux continued on with the business while raising 4 kids on her own. She remarried lather in life to Euclid Turcotte. She later sold the family business and it became the Meli Melo store while the Fontaine family took over the grocery side of the business. The building vanished in flames some 35 years ago. On the Brault side, the building is still standing and it became the Depaneur Eastman located next to Bovila, a popular fast food restaurant. Both my parents are from Eastman and migrated to Montreal for work. I was born in the City but could never call it home. I spent as much time as possible with my grandmother in Eastman. Lather I lived at my ant place (same house) and bought a summer place at 19. Today I go back almost every week in the summer. One day, I’ll move there. For me, Eastman is home.
I’ll ask about the dog. Maybe my father would have known your relatives. I didn’t get their last name, if you don’t mind sharing I’ll ask Ernest!!! He is 82 but still has a pretty good memory, mostly for the older days.
Joyeux Noel!!!
Robert Brault
December 27, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
I have read your message over and over and certainly recall the names Ernest & Clement. I believe there was a little grocery store right on the main street in front of rue Des Pins, and we would be driven from the mine site, to the store, to catch our school bus to Waterloo. Where did you go to school?
It seems to me all the kids in Eastman went to Waterloo High school. We were Catholics, but our parents always paid school fees for us to go to Protestant schools. In most remote mining towns there were no English/Catholic schools, I guess.
At that age 11-14, we are in a world of our own that contains our friends, Elvis, The Everley Brothers, & Fats Domino and we don’t pay much attention to what our parents are doing, after deciding whatever anyone over 25 is doing is pretty stupid!
I sure wish I had paid attention.
On second thought, I sure wish my parents were here right now…I have many curiosities. They would be about 97 now, so considerably older than your dad.